Love the fact that these pants are in-the-boot trail pants with large pockets for maps, etc. Very handy. Comfort was good although the knees are extremely baggy...too baggy. The sloppiness wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the poor heat resistance of the material used. The inner part of the knee is leather to resist heat but the knee is so baggy that it's almost impossible to keep them from touching the pipe/engine during a long ride. Even riding a four stroke these pants burned on the first ride. The material is so thin that it doesn't melt, it disappears. A thicker, more heat resistant material would be great. Expected more from this level of pant. Went to Klim HQ in Idaho to provide feedback but was disappointed in their lack of interest. Guess I'll provide it here. Really wanted to like these pants and had hoped for much more from Klim gear and the company. If it wasn't for the knee problem I would buy these pants again. However, for the price I can't recommend.