I bought these pants to go with my Dainese Air Frame jacket. They actually fit pretty close to pant size although when zippered to my jacket, they do ride a bit higher which is why they tell you to measure around you belly button, not waist. I have not used them yet but they seem to match the description. Knee armor fits in the right place. Can be worn inside or outside a high top boot. Nice long zipper at the bottom. Nice heavy material but not too heavy. Large air vents above the knee. We'll have to see how they function in a Texas summer.