I have a 2008 Honda trx450er. When I pulled them out of the box they looked too big for my four-wheeler. They are very nice compared to what I had (just the foot peg). They are solid and I have not had any problems with them so far. Installing them was a little bit of a B, no instructions made it worse. They come with two brackets to mount them to the frame. The one that goes in the old foot peg holes fits fine, however, the front bracket was a little bit more difficult. I had to bend it to meet the angle of my frame and there was no hole to bolt it up. I just welded it to my frame and they are fine. They ended up not sticking out past my rear tire. I am happy with them.