I love these pads! They really do hold up beyond belief in mud, sand, dirt, and all nasty wet conditions. I have to deal with over my fair share of mud and these pads eat it! Very impressed! I have bought EBC's before and will never buy again! According to all the hype I thought EBC's were supposed to be top of the line, if you ask me they are junk! All the money you spend on EBC's you could buy multiple pairs of streamline and be thoroughly amazed! Go with streamline they will NOT let you down!